The Hopeful Heretic Podcast
Talking all things Bible, Church, Family, and Jesus every Tuesday. It may be right? It may be heretical? That’s for you to decide. HHP is sponsored by hff.church
Episodes

Dec 9, 2025
Dec 9, 2025
6 min
One of the hardest things for modern parents—especially in a culture built on trends, fads, and constant change—is consistency. But consistency is one of the purest forms of love a child can receive. It communicates safety, stability, and trust in a world full of noise.
Welcome to the HHP Podcast. I'm Chris Franke, Senior Pastor of HFF Church in Oklahoma City. Join me and others from around the country as we talk all things Bible, church, and family. We may be right… we may be heretical… but that’s for you to decide. Drop a like, a comment, share the episode, subscribe—and let’s get to it.
Today’s Episode: Why Consistency Communicates Love
As parents, we know consistency is difficult. We’re tired, we’re busy, we’re stretched thin. But Jesus gives us one of the simplest and most profound principles:“Let your ‘yes’ be yes, and your ‘no’ be no.” — Matthew 5:37
Inconsistency confuses children and undermines their trust. When expectations shift with our moods, our leadership becomes unpredictable—and unpredictability breeds insecurity.
In this episode we explore:
Why consistency = security
How predictability helps children flourish emotionally and spiritually
Why inconsistency—even unintentional—can create fear and anxiety in a child
Why consistency doesn’t mean perfection; it means dependability
How following through gently and firmly communicates love
Why transparency matters when we mess up—and how apologizing strengthens connection
Why correction must always lead to reconnection
How withdrawing love after discipline distorts a child’s view of God
How Ephesians 6:4 and Revelation 3:19 reveal God’s model for restorative discipline
Why correction without reconnection leaves wounds, but correction with compassion creates discipleship
How pausing and praying before discipline protects your child—and your relationship
Your children need to know what to expect from you, even when you’re tired, frustrated, or overwhelmed. Because correction should always lead to connection, not distance.
Every consequence should end with reassurance:“I love you. We’ll grow through this together. God has us.”
This is how God loves us—and how we model His heart to our children.
A Parenting Prayer for Today
“Holy Spirit, lead my words, my tone, and my actions.Let my correction reflect Your gentleness, not my frustration.Make my consistency a testimony of Your faithful love.”

Dec 2, 2025
Dec 2, 2025
6 min
The topic of discipline in the 21st century is complicated. Many adults carry the wounds of abusive or unhealthy childhoods, and in response they either swing toward free-range parenting with no structure… or subconsciously replicate the very model they swore they’d never repeat. But biblically, discipline is not optional—and when done God’s way, it produces life, not fear.
Welcome to the HHP Podcast. My name is Chris Franke, Senior Pastor of HFF Church in Oklahoma City. Join me and others from around the country as we talk all things Bible, church, and family. We may be right, we may be heretical—but that’s for you to decide. Drop a like, a comment, a share, subscribe, and let’s get to it.
Today’s Episode: Discipline Is About the Heart, Not Behavior
God disciplines His children—and Scripture calls us to do the same.But biblical discipline isn’t about punishing behavior.It’s about training the heart.
In this episode, we explore:
Why heart training matters more than behavior management
How the Torah emphasized the outward, but Jesus emphasized the inner transformation
Why godly discipline prepares, rather than punishes
How consistent boundaries build trust, not fear
Why love without discipline leads to rebellion—and discipline without love leads to resentment
How empowered obedience creates lifelong trust, while blind obedience creates future rebellion
Why boundaries are not barriers to freedom, but environments where freedom flourishes
How calm, consistent authority reflects the heart of the Father (Hebrews 12:6)
Why the goal is not to control your child, but to steward their heart toward Christ
Proverbs 4:23 reminds us: “Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.”Your child’s behavior flows from their beliefs.Change the heart—and the actions follow.
This episode teaches parents to ask heart-shaping questions:
“Why did you do that?”
“What were you thinking in that moment?”
“What was going on inside you?”
Not just: “Don’t do that.”
Rules without relationship create rebellion.Relationship with guidance creates maturity.
What Healthy Boundaries Produce
Safety, not fear
Confidence, not confusion
Responsibility, not rebellion
Freedom within structure (Psalm 16:6)
Use calm explanations instead of threats.Connect correction to protection.Say, “I’m guiding you because I love you,”not, “Do this because I said so.”
Ask yourself: Do my boundaries create peace in my home… or fear?
Your job isn’t to control your child.Your job is to guide them toward Christ.

Nov 25, 2025
Nov 25, 2025
7 min
Every parent knows what instability feels like—rage one minute, joy the next, frustration right after. For years, I lived that cycle myself. Ministry pressures followed me home, and I would swing between extremes. I loved my kids deeply, but my emotional instability often set the tone of the household.
Eventually, I realized a hard truth:My home could never be more stable than my spirit.
Isaiah 26:3 reminds us, “You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast.”A child can only feel as secure as their parent is grounded.
In this episode, we talk about:
Why spiritual grounding is the root of emotional grounding
How children absorb the anxiety, anger, or peace we carry
The “lifeguard principle” of parenting: you must stabilize yourself before rescuing anyone else
Why peace isn’t built by routines but by God’s presence saturating those routines
How grace—not perfection—is what creates long-term stability
The rhythms, habits, and prayers that help form a peaceful home
How your emotional tone becomes your child’s first theology
What it means to replace chaos with Spirit-led consistency
How parents can model Christ in the moments that matter most
Scripture tells us:
“The fruit of righteousness will be peace…” — Isaiah 32:17
“Do not provoke your children…” — Colossians 3
“God is not a God of disorder but of peace.” — 1 Corinthians 14
“Practice these things… and the God of peace will be with you.” — Philippians 4:9
You don’t need perfect routines—you need Spirit-led rhythms.You don’t need control—you need communion.And you don’t need to be the perfect parent—you just need to be a peaceful presence.
Reflection Questions from Today’s Episode
Does my home feel peaceful or pressured?
Are my children confident in what to expect from me daily?
Where can I replace chaos with consistency?
What does my tone teach my children about God?
Have I made peace the pursuit of my home—or perfection?
Connect & Support
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Nov 18, 2025
Nov 18, 2025
7 min
In this episode, we explore the heart of biblical parenting—not behavior control, but heart formation.
Children thrive when structure shapes their days and love grounds their identity. Scripture reminds us:
“By wisdom a house is built, and through understanding it is established.” — Proverbs 24:3
“Let all things be done decently and in order.” — 1 Corinthians 14:40
We unpack why:
Structure builds stability, but love builds confidence
Extreme parenting—too loose or too strict—fails to train the heart
Predictable rhythms (meals, prayer, chores, bedtime blessings) create emotional safety
Parents disciple children into either steadiness or chaos
Your tone, presence, and reactions shape how your children imagine God
Authority must reflect Psalm 103: compassionate, gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love
Daily habits should reflect God’s character—not fear, instability, or emotional volatility
You’ll walk away with practical, biblical tools to help your home become a place of peace, predictability, warmth, and Christlike formation.
If this podcast blesses you…
Consider supporting our mission by giving at HFF.house.For sermons, blogs, resources, and events, visit HFF.church.Looking for a church home? Join us for Saturday Church every week at 10:30 AM in OKC.

Nov 11, 2025
Nov 11, 2025
7 min
How do you help make your church healthy? 💭
In this powerful conclusion to our two-part series, Pastor Chris Franke of HFF Church in Oklahoma City explores your personal role in building a Jesus-centered, Spirit-led, and servant-hearted church.
Healthy churches don’t happen by accident — they’re built by people, not programs. And the truth is, the church will only ever be as healthy as the people who make it up.
🔑 This Episode Covers:
1️⃣ Serve Faithfully & HumblyJesus said, “The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve.” (Mark 10:45)A healthy church is led by servants, not celebrities — by people who care more about washing feet than building platforms.
2️⃣ Walk in Fruit, Not Just GiftsMany want the gifts of the Spirit, but few cultivate the fruit of the Spirit.(Galatians 5:22–23) reminds us that true transformation happens when love, patience, kindness, and self-control define our lives — not just our ministries.
3️⃣ Stop Complaining — Start ContributingIf you see something missing in your church, fill the gap instead of fueling the gossip.Be the solution God can use to bring healing, maturity, and revival.
Healthy churches are not perfect churches — they’re repentant churches.They’re families on mission, walking in humility, fruitfulness, and unity.
So before saying, “My church isn’t healthy,” ask yourself:
“Am I bringing health to it — or am I part of what’s keeping it sick?”
🎧 Welcome to the Hopeful Heretic Podcast (HHP)Join Pastor Chris Franke and others from around the country as we talk all things Bible, church, and family.We may be right. We may be heretical. But that’s for you to decide.
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Nov 4, 2025
Nov 4, 2025
10 min
How can you help make your church healthy? 💡
In this episode of the Hopeful Heretic Podcast (HHP), Pastor Chris Franke from HFF Church in Oklahoma City challenges listeners to move from consumers to contributors — from spectators to participants in the Body of Christ.
Over the past two weeks, we’ve unpacked what defines a healthy church — a Christ-centered foundation, sound doctrine, authentic community, and the presence of the Holy Spirit.But today we turn the question back on ourselves:👉 What can YOU do to make your church healthy?
🔑 Key Points Covered:
1️⃣ Be a Participant, Not a ConsumerStop asking, “What did I get out of church?” and start asking, “What did I contribute to it?”(Hebrews 10:24–25)
2️⃣ Be Rooted in the Word, Not in OpinionA healthy church requires spiritually rooted members who anchor themselves in the truth of Scripture — not emotion, not popularity.(2 Timothy 3:16–17)
3️⃣ Build Relationships That Heal, Not HurtUnity isn’t about perfection; it’s about forgiveness, humility, and reconciliation.(Ephesians 4:2–3)
Healthy churches don’t just happen by accident — they’re built on people, not programs.When you live biblically, love humbly, and serve faithfully, you bring health to the house of God.
So before asking, “Is my church healthy?” ask yourself:
“Am I helping it become healthy?”
🎧 Welcome to the HHP Podcast — where we talk all things Bible, church, and family.We may be right. We may be heretical. But that’s for you to decide.
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Oct 28, 2025
Oct 28, 2025
10 min
What does a healthy church actually look like? 🤔
In this week’s episode of the Hopeful Heretic Podcast (HHP), Pastor Chris Franke of HFF Church in Oklahoma City wraps up this powerful two-part series on What Makes a Healthy Church.
Last week we explored:📖 1 Corinthians 3 — Jesus as the only true foundation📖 2 Timothy 3:16 — Biblical authority and sound doctrine📖 Acts 2:42 — Authentic, Spirit-led community
This week we conclude with the next four marks of a truly Jesus-centered church:
1️⃣ Discipleship & Spiritual Growth — Churches aren’t called to create consumers; they’re called to form apprentices of Jesus (Matthew 28:19).2️⃣ Mission & Evangelism — The Church exists to transform homes, neighborhoods, and nations (Acts 1:8).3️⃣ Servant Leadership — True shepherds serve in humility and accountability, not control or celebrity (Matthew 23:11).4️⃣ Presence of the Holy Spirit — Not by might, not by programs, but by God’s Spirit (Zechariah 4:6).
Because a healthy church isn’t perfect — it’s repentant.It’s a place where truth and grace meet, where Jesus is enthroned above all, and where transformed people multiply transformation.
💭 Ask yourself:“Is my church healthy?”Or maybe the better question is — “Am I healthy?”
🎧 Welcome to the HHP Podcast — where we talk all things Bible, church, and family.We may be right. We may be heretical. But that’s for you to decide.
📍 Join us for Saturday Church in OKC every Saturday morning at 10:30am🌐 Visit https://hff.church
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Oct 21, 2025
Oct 21, 2025
17 min
What really makes a church healthy? 🎯In this episode of the Hopeful Heretic Podcast (HHP), Pastor Chris Franke from HFF Church in Oklahoma City dives into Part 1 of a two-part series exploring what the Bible actually says about a healthy church.
Drawing from Matthew 28, Acts 2, and 1 Corinthians 3, this teaching cuts through the noise of modern church culture — beyond fog machines, donuts, and Instagram hype — to uncover the true biblical foundations of a Christ-centered community.
You’ll discover:1️⃣ Why Jesus must be the foundation of every church (1 Corinthians 3:11)2️⃣ The role of biblical authority and sound doctrine (2 Timothy 3:16)3️⃣ The power of authentic community that practices real discipleship (Acts 2:42)
Because if we don’t know what makes a church healthy, how can we know if we’re in one?
Join the conversation, drop a comment, and share your thoughts on what defines a truly healthy church.We may be right, we may be heretical — but that’s for you to decide.
👉 Subscribe for Part 2 next week as we continue this deep dive into biblical church health and discipleship.🌐 For more podcasts, blogs, and resources visit https://hff.church
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Oct 14, 2025
Oct 14, 2025
19 min
It’s trendy in 2025 to deconstruct, criticize, and abandon the Church.But what if rejecting the Church means rejecting the very system Jesus designed to heal you?
Welcome to the Hopeful Heretic Podcast with Pastor Chris Franke, Senior Pastor of HFF Church in Oklahoma City. In this episode, we tackle one of the most polarizing topics in modern Christianity — “Why the Church Still Matters.”
🔥 In this episode, you’ll discover:
Why “church hurt” isn’t new — it’s a human problem, not a God problem.
How the adversary uses offense and isolation to pull believers from God’s design.
Why rebellion begins with distrusting that God knows what’s best for His people.
How Hebrews 10 and 1 Corinthians 12 prove you cannot grow spiritually in isolation.
Why accountability, structure, and leadership are not oppression — they’re protection.
How the Church — flawed, messy, and human — remains the only system Jesus calls His Bride.
📖 Key Scriptures:Hebrews 10:24–25 | 1 Corinthians 12 | Romans 12 | 1 Timothy 3 | Titus 1 | Galatians 6 | Psalm 95 | Matthew 18
💡 Big Takeaway:You can’t love Jesus and reject His Body.When you walk away from the Church, you’re walking away from the structure Christ Himself leads.
👑 The Church isn’t perfect — but it’s necessary.It’s the training ground for saints, the hospital for sinners, and the billboard for the Kingdom of Heaven.
🎧 Listen Now: “The Church Isn’t Broken — We Are.”👉 Like | 💬 Comment | 🔔 Subscribe | 🔗 Share this message of Kingdom truth
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Oct 7, 2025
Oct 7, 2025
10 min
✨ The Feast of Tabernacles: God’s Desire to Dwell With Us — Past, Present & Future
What if the most overlooked feast in modern Christianity was actually the most prophetic celebration of all time? In this episode of the Hopeful Heretic Podcast, Pastor Chris Franke of HFF Church (Oklahoma City) unpacks the Feast of Tabernacles—also known as Sukkot or the Feast of Booths—and reveals why it’s not just “a Jewish feast,” but one of God’s Feasts pointing to His eternal desire to dwell with His people.
🔥 In this episode you’ll discover:
The biblical roots of Sukkot in Leviticus 23 and the wilderness journey.
How John 1:14 and 1 Corinthians 6:19 reveal that Jesus tabernacled among us.
Why the Feast of Tabernacles is a prophetic rehearsal for the coming Kingdom.
What it means that “the dwelling of God is with men” (Revelation 21:3).
How families today can celebrate Sukkot with joy, presence, and promise.
🌿 Past – God dwelt with His people in the wilderness.🔥 Present – God dwells in us through the Holy Spirit.👑 Future – God will dwell with us forever in the New Jerusalem.
This isn’t just another feast—it’s a living picture of the Kingdom to come. From the campfires of Oklahoma to the eternal fire of God’s presence, this episode will awaken your hunger for His dwelling among us.
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The Hopeful Heretic Podcast
Christian’s utilize doctrine, theology, and philosophy when attempting to define and determine how the Christian faith will be walked out. Differences in these lead to denominations, church splits, sometimes divorce of marriage, and contention within the body of Christ. Everyone is right in their own eyes. Yet we all have a commonality in Christianity….. Jesus/Yeshua. The Hopeful Heretic podcast hopes to be another resources for Christian’s navigating the questions of belief, and then what to do with that belief by talking all things Bible. The podcast is hosted by Chris Franke who is the Senior Pastor of HFF.church in Oklahoma City. He will be joined from time to time by others leaders in the church, ministry leaders from other churches, and anyone else who could be an asset to help you develop how you think about the Bible, what you do with the Bible, and how does that help you love Jesus more. Through topics like the church in OKC, raising Godly children, bearing fruit of the Holy Spirit through faith actions, building healthy marriages, and other Christian faith topics throughout the life of the podcast. In the end the podcast hopes to help you develop a deeper and more intimate walk with Jesus in your day to day life.









